Installing the Cobian Reflector program does not work

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Installing the Cobian Reflector program does not work

Post by 19esa84 »

Hello, the Cobian Reflector program is not installed on Windows 10 LTSC 2021 and/ or Server 2022 after updates from Microsoft, the installation works on clean Windows, but what if you need to uninstall and install again?
Installation.NET runtime from the site - https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/down ... -framework it doesn't help.
The installation of the program starts, requests administrator rights, after confirmation - visually nothing happens, after 30 seconds the process simply closes in the task manager. Can I fix the installer of the program so that it works?
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I quote the installation logs found, if you need to post something else, specify how to find them:

1. Report.wer - C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportArchive

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ReportType=2
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IntegratorReportIdentifier=6be392c7-69b9-4a90-afd8-c982f11254af
Wow64Host=34404
NsAppName=Cobian.Reflector.Starter.exe
OriginalFilename=Cobian.Reflector.Starter.exe
AppSessionGuid=00002670-0001-0019-1557-cb584fb8d901
TargetAppId=W:0006867d69f4687115694c53ed1f3055c8aa00000000!0000a22ca39d16b4ce783add94a9ceae2ed473209217!Cobian.Reflector.Starter.exe
TargetAppVer=2100//04//27:00:52:21!a3cfc!Cobian.Reflector.Starter.exe
BootId=4294967295
TargetAsId=2433
IsFatal=1
EtwNonCollectReason=1
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LoadedModule[0]=C:\Users\xxx\AppData\Local\Temp\{163B5EBE-A26D-4894-B86F-39CC024254FA}\Setup\Cobian.Reflector.Starter.exe
LoadedModule[1]=C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll
LoadedModule[2]=C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\MSCOREE.DLL
LoadedModule[3]=C:\Windows\System32\KERNEL32.dll
LoadedModule[4]=C:\Windows\System32\KERNELBASE.dll
LoadedModule[5]=C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\apphelp.dll
LoadedModule[6]=C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\AcLayers.DLL
LoadedModule[7]=C:\Windows\System32\msvcrt.dll
LoadedModule[8]=C:\Windows\System32\USER32.dll
LoadedModule[9]=C:\Windows\System32\win32u.dll
LoadedModule[10]=C:\Windows\System32\GDI32.dll
LoadedModule[11]=C:\Windows\System32\gdi32full.dll
LoadedModule[12]=C:\Windows\System32\msvcp_win.dll
LoadedModule[13]=C:\Windows\System32\ucrtbase.dll
LoadedModule[14]=C:\Windows\System32\SHELL32.dll
LoadedModule[15]=C:\Windows\System32\SHLWAPI.dll
LoadedModule[16]=C:\Windows\System32\ADVAPI32.dll
LoadedModule[17]=C:\Windows\System32\sechost.dll
LoadedModule[18]=C:\Windows\System32\RPCRT4.dll
LoadedModule[19]=C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\sfc.dll
LoadedModule[20]=C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\WINSPOOL.DRV
LoadedModule[21]=C:\Windows\System32\combase.dll
LoadedModule[22]=C:\Windows\System32\shcore.dll
LoadedModule[23]=C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\sfc_os.DLL
LoadedModule[24]=C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\SortWindows61.dll
LoadedModule[25]=C:\Windows\System32\IMM32.DLL
LoadedModule[26]=C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v4.0.30319\mscoreei.dll
LoadedModule[27]=C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\kernel.appcore.dll
LoadedModule[28]=C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\VERSION.dll
LoadedModule[29]=C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v4.0.30319\clr.dll
LoadedModule[30]=C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\VCRUNTIME140_1_CLR0400.dll
LoadedModule[31]=C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\VCRUNTIME140_CLR0400.dll
LoadedModule[32]=C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ucrtbase_clr0400.dll
LoadedModule[33]=C:\Windows\System32\psapi.dll
LoadedModule[34]=C:\Windows\assembly\NativeImages_v4.0.30319_64\mscorlib\6c8e71ac968d634f8c8912525b71e834\mscorlib.ni.dll
LoadedModule[35]=C:\Windows\System32\ole32.dll
LoadedModule[36]=C:\Windows\System32\bcryptPrimitives.dll
LoadedModule[37]=C:\Windows\system32\uxtheme.dll
LoadedModule[38]=C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\CRYPTSP.dll
LoadedModule[39]=C:\Windows\system32\rsaenh.dll
LoadedModule[40]=C:\Windows\System32\bcrypt.dll
LoadedModule[41]=C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\CRYPTBASE.dll
LoadedModule[42]=C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v4.0.30319\clrjit.dll
LoadedModule[43]=C:\Windows\assembly\NativeImages_v4.0.30319_64\System\5ce604a6e2b8d15dd5340526c27d3cda\System.ni.dll
LoadedModule[44]=C:\Windows\assembly\NativeImages_v4.0.30319_64\System.Drawing\d95c44faf0eb7a8fc9722952c73cd0b6\System.Drawing.ni.dll
LoadedModule[45]=C:\Windows\assembly\NativeImages_v4.0.30319_64\System.Windows.Forms\99dcc2e08db0bb1de1ecb24876593542\System.Windows.Forms.ni.dll
LoadedModule[46]=C:\Windows\assembly\NativeImages_v4.0.30319_64\System.Core\dab9ca319471e31ea385190337016273\System.Core.ni.dll
LoadedModule[47]=C:\Windows\assembly\NativeImages_v4.0.30319_64\System.Configuration\99996e7c93cb3137a70760bdc074a9d8\System.Configuration.ni.dll
LoadedModule[48]=C:\Windows\assembly\NativeImages_v4.0.30319_64\System.Xml\e820203612034e91714f0f382cb044a8\System.Xml.ni.dll
LoadedModule[49]=C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\windows.storage.dll
LoadedModule[50]=C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\Wldp.dll
LoadedModule[51]=C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\profapi.dll
LoadedModule[52]=C:\Windows\WinSxS\amd64_microsoft.windows.common-controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.19041.1110_none_60b5254171f9507e\comctl32.dll
LoadedModule[53]=C:\Windows\WinSxS\amd64_microsoft.windows.gdiplus_6595b64144ccf1df_1.1.19041.2251_none_91a40448cc8846c1\gdiplus.dll
LoadedModule[54]=C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\DWrite.dll
LoadedModule[55]=C:\Windows\System32\MSCTF.dll
LoadedModule[56]=C:\Windows\System32\OLEAUT32.dll
LoadedModule[57]=C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v4.0.30319\diasymreader.dll
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FriendlyEventName=Остановка работы
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AppName=Cobian.Reflector.Starter
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NsPartner=windows
NsGroup=windows8
ApplicationIdentity=0B1B12D6146EA768BF909C2C42DFA310
MetadataHash=-421512520

2. Win report - Aplication error 1000

Имя сбойного приложения: Cobian.Reflector.Setup.exe, версия: 2.4.0.0, метка времени: 0x88f24247
Имя сбойного модуля: KERNELBASE.dll, версия: 10.0.19041.3155, метка времени: 0xbf300201
Код исключения: 0xe0434352
Смещение ошибки: 0x000000000002cf19
Идентификатор сбойного процесса: 0x18ec
Время запуска сбойного приложения: 0x01d9b84de54d7913
Путь сбойного приложения: C:\Users\xxx\AppData\Local\Temp\{F98A7DB8-F783-4A87-8519-5E25BA8D4A1B}\Setup\Cobian.Reflector.Setup.exe
Путь сбойного модуля: C:\Windows\System32\KERNELBASE.dll
Идентификатор отчета: 6db78cc9-c6de-4a43-8426-a86363360ae4
Полное имя сбойного пакета:
Код приложения, связанного со сбойным пакетом:

3. Win report - NET Runtime 1026

Приложение: Cobian.Reflector.Setup.exe
Версия платформы: v4.0.30319
Описание. Процесс был завершен из-за необработанного исключения.
Сведения об исключении: System.InvalidOperationException
в System.Security.Cryptography.MD5CryptoServiceProvider..ctor()
в Cobian.CommonX.Encryption.CobEncryptX.Encrypt(System.String, System.String)
в Cobian.Reflector.Custom.set_Key(System.String)
в Cobian.Reflector.Custom..cctor()

Сведения об исключении: System.TypeInitializationException
в Cobian.Reflector.Custom.get_ShortAuthor()
в Cobian.Reflector.ElementalTool.checkCustomPaths()
в Cobian.Reflector.ElementalTool..cctor()

Сведения об исключении: System.TypeInitializationException
в Cobian.Reflector.ElementalTool.get_PathLocal()
в Cobian.Reflector.UI.Xaml.Presentation.LoadFromFile()
в Cobian.Reflector.App.Application_Startup(System.Object, System.Windows.StartupEventArgs)
в System.Windows.Application.OnStartup(System.Windows.StartupEventArgs)
в System.Windows.Application.<.ctor>b__1_0(System.Object)
в System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(System.Delegate, System.Object, Int32)
в System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.TryCatchWhen(System.Object, System.Delegate, System.Object, Int32, System.Delegate)
в System.Windows.Threading.DispatcherOperation.InvokeImpl()
в MS.Internal.CulturePreservingExecutionContext.CallbackWrapper(System.Object)
в System.Threading.ExecutionContext.RunInternal(System.Threading.ExecutionContext, System.Threading.ContextCallback, System.Object, Boolean)
в System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(System.Threading.ExecutionContext, System.Threading.ContextCallback, System.Object, Boolean)
в System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(System.Threading.ExecutionContext, System.Threading.ContextCallback, System.Object)
в MS.Internal.CulturePreservingExecutionContext.Run(MS.Internal.CulturePreservingExecutionContext, System.Threading.ContextCallback, System.Object)
в System.Windows.Threading.DispatcherOperation.Invoke()
в System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.ProcessQueue()
в System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.WndProcHook(IntPtr, Int32, IntPtr, IntPtr, Boolean ByRef)
в MS.Win32.HwndWrapper.WndProc(IntPtr, Int32, IntPtr, IntPtr, Boolean ByRef)
в MS.Win32.HwndSubclass.DispatcherCallbackOperation(System.Object)
в System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(System.Delegate, System.Object, Int32)
в System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.TryCatchWhen(System.Object, System.Delegate, System.Object, Int32, System.Delegate)
в System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.LegacyInvokeImpl(System.Windows.Threading.DispatcherPriority, System.TimeSpan, System.Delegate, System.Object, Int32)
в MS.Win32.HwndSubclass.SubclassWndProc(IntPtr, Int32, IntPtr, IntPtr)
в MS.Win32.UnsafeNativeMethods.DispatchMessage(System.Windows.Interop.MSG ByRef)
в System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.PushFrameImpl(System.Windows.Threading.DispatcherFrame)
в System.Windows.Application.RunDispatcher(System.Object)
в System.Windows.Application.RunInternal(System.Windows.Window)
в Cobian.Reflector.App.Main()
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Re: Installing the Cobian Reflector program does not work

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I need to test on the new updates. The problem seems to be in System.Security.Cryptography.MD5CryptoServiceProvider..ctor() . Hmm...
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Re: Installing the Cobian Reflector program does not work

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Hello, I misled you a little, it's not about updates from Microsoft, but about the group policy being applied to the computer, and to be specific - Computer Configuration (enabled)-Policies-Windows Configuration-Security Settings-Local policies/Security Parameters-System Encryption Tools-(System Cryptography: Use FIPS-compatible algorithms for encryption, hashing and signing).
After enabling this policy, the installation of the Cobian Reflector program is not possible.
In addition, when this policy is enabled, after installing the Cobian Reflector program, it makes it impossible to run the already installed Cobian Reflector program.
I wonder if this can be fixed?
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Re: Installing the Cobian Reflector program does not work

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I see... I will come with an update in future versions in order to use a new wncryption method instead for the one I'm using now that is becoming obsolete.
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Re: Installing the Cobian Reflector program does not work

Post by FIPSblocked »

Luis --
I had the same problem, with multiple installation failures on my work-issued PC.
Finally someone in Security said the problem might be that our enterprise was enforcing FIPS rules. They turned it off for my PC and I was able to install Cobian Reflector. And I was able to use it -- once.
Then I rebooted, and I guess the FIPS rules are now being enforced again. When I try to launch the Cobian Reflector Main Application I can watch on the Details tab of Task Manager as Cobian.Reflector.Application.exe appears and then disappears within a second or two.
I understand that replacing Reflector's current encryption method with FIPS-compatible algorithms for encryption, hashing and signing may not be easy.
But I didn't use encryption with Cobian Backup and I don't need to use it now with Reflector.
Would it be possible to release a version of Cobian Reflector with no encryption functionality, so as to avoid this conflict with FIPS?
Thanks for considering this.
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Re: Installing the Cobian Reflector program does not work

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I'll see what can be done. The problem will be: how to update the already encrypted strings in all existing installations.
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Re: Installing the Cobian Reflector program does not work

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Ensure that your computer meets the system requirements for the Cobian Reflector program. Review the program's documentation or website for information about supported operating systems, hardware specifications, and any other prerequisites.
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Re: Installing the Cobian Reflector program does not work

Post by Tabourai »

Hi there,

When I tried to install on a PC in my lab I had the same situation
The installation of the program starts, requests administrator rights, after confirmation - visually nothing happens, after 30 seconds the process simply closes in the task manager.
To give some context, its a PC not connected to the web, installed on a Lab for a specified instrument. I re-installed windows using the image provided by the supplier, .net version 4.8 (ndp48-x86-x64-allos-enu).

Could you help me ?

I'm quite new to this kind of activities, let me know if I can provide more informations.
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Re: Installing the Cobian Reflector program does not work

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Yes, this is the same problem. Your policy doesn't allow weaker encryption.
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Re: Installing the Cobian Reflector program does not work

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It still happens on my )PC, and I still haven't found a solution
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