Tasks run manually do not always run

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Tasks run manually do not always run

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Hi Luis,

Windows 11-21H2 Pro
CobianReflector-0.9.75.exe

See attachment for schedule settings.
"E:\" is deliberately full to trigger errors.

Tasks run manually do not always run. The first attempt when triggered manually work with the "Run selected tasks" button. The second and third do not. And this repeats cyclically.

First attempt (worked):

2022-01-12 09:19:47 A backup has started...
2022-01-12 09:19:47 Calculating the number of files. This could take a while...

2022-01-12 09:19:47 Backing up the task "KVM-W11 Reflector Test"
2022-01-12 09:19:47 Requesting the creation of a Volume Shadow Copy image for the source...
2022-01-12 09:19:49 The Volume Shadow Copy image has been successfully created.
2022-01-12 09:19:49 Starting the copy. The user running the task is: SYSTEM
2022-01-12 09:19:49 The destination directory "E:\MyDocsBackup\backup1\NtUtil 2022-01-12 09;19;49" has been successfully created.
2022-01-12 09:19:49 Backing up the directory "C:\NtUtil" to "E:\MyDocsBackup\backup1\NtUtil 2022-01-12 09;19;49"...
ERR 2022-01-12 09:19:49 An error occurred while copying "C:\NtUtil\CobianWrapper.pl6" to "E:\MyDocsBackup\backup1\NtUtil 2022-01-12 09;19;49\CobianWrapper.pl6": There is not enough space on the disk
ERR 2022-01-12 09:19:49 An error occurred while copying "C:\NtUtil\InetConnectTest.pl6" to "E:\MyDocsBackup\backup1\NtUtil 2022-01-12 09;19;49\InetConnectTest.pl6": There is not enough space on the disk
2022-01-12 09:19:50 The backup has ended. There are errors. Consult the log file.

2022-01-12 09:19:51 The log files have been successfully deleted.
Second and third attempt (did not work):
2022-01-12 09:32:25 A backup has started...
2022-01-12 09:32:25 Calculating the number of files. This could take a while...

2022-01-12 09:32:25 Backing up the task "KVM-W11 Reflector Test"
2022-01-12 09:32:25 Requesting the creation of a Volume Shadow Copy image for the source...
2022-01-12 09:32:27 The backup has ended. There are errors. Consult the log file.

2022-01-12 09:32:28 The log files have been successfully deleted.
The error log is
[date] the log files have been successfully deleted
Forth attempt worked. Cycle repeats itself.
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Re: Tasks run manually do not always run

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I think there are errors logged, but you can't see them because the log is being deleted. Disable the Delete log file option temporarily and consult the file to see if you can find anything else.
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Re: Tasks run manually do not always run

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cobian wrote: 12 Jan 2022, 19:31 I think there are errors logged, but you can't see them because the log is being deleted. Disable the Delete log file option temporarily and consult the file to see if you can find anything else.
Hi Luis,

It only creates one log file. I presume we only get one log file per day. The log file shows no change over what was eMailed to me.
2022-01-12 17:45:38 The log files have been successfully deleted.

2022-01-12 17:45:50 The settings have been changed and saved.
2022-01-12 17:45:53 Backing up some selected tasks.

2022-01-12 17:45:54 A backup has started...
2022-01-12 17:45:54 Calculating the number of files. This could take a while...

2022-01-12 17:45:54 Backing up the task "KVM-W11 Reflector Test"
2022-01-12 17:45:54 Requesting the creation of a Volume Shadow Copy image for the source...
2022-01-12 17:45:56 The backup has ended. There are errors. Consult the log file.

2022-01-12 17:45:56 The log files have been successfully sent.

2022-01-12 17:46:05 Backing up some selected tasks.

2022-01-12 17:46:07 A backup has started...
2022-01-12 17:46:07 Calculating the number of files. This could take a while...

2022-01-12 17:46:07 Backing up the task "KVM-W11 Reflector Test"
2022-01-12 17:46:07 Requesting the creation of a Volume Shadow Copy image for the source...
2022-01-12 17:46:09 The backup has ended. There are errors. Consult the log file.

2022-01-12 17:46:09 The log files have been successfully sent.

2022-01-12 17:46:29 The settings have been changed and saved.
2022-01-12 17:46:33 Backing up some selected tasks.

2022-01-12 17:46:35 A backup has started...
2022-01-12 17:46:35 Calculating the number of files. This could take a while...

2022-01-12 17:46:35 Backing up the task "KVM-W11 Reflector Test"
2022-01-12 17:46:35 Requesting the creation of a Volume Shadow Copy image for the source...
2022-01-12 17:46:35 The Volume Shadow Copy image has been successfully created.
2022-01-12 17:46:35 Starting the copy. The user running the task is: SYSTEM
ERR 2022-01-12 17:46:35 The destination directory "E:\MyDocsBackup\backup1\NtUtil 2022-01-12 17;46;35" couldn't be created: (112) There is not enough space on the disk: [E:\MyDocsBackup\backup1\NtUtil 2022-01-12 17;46;35]
2022-01-12 17:46:35 * Backup part for the task "KVM-W11 Reflector Test" has ended. Number of backed up files: 0. Backup part size: 0 bytes. *
ERR 2022-01-12 17:46:35 The destination directory "E:\MyDocsBackup\backup1\Drivers 2022-01-12 17;46;35" couldn't be created: (112) There is not enough space on the disk: [E:\MyDocsBackup\backup1\Drivers 2022-01-12 17;46;35]
2022-01-12 17:46:35 * Backup part for the task "KVM-W11 Reflector Test" has ended. Number of backed up files: 0. Backup part size: 0 bytes. *
2022-01-12 17:46:35 ** Backup for the task "KVM-W11 Reflector Test" has ended. Number of backed up files: 0. Created folders: 0. Backup size: 0 bytes. **
2022-01-12 17:46:35 *** Number of errors: 2. Time elapsed for the task "KVM-W11 Reflector Test": 0 hours, 0 minutes, 0 seconds. ***

2022-01-12 17:46:35 Deleting the Volume Shadow Copy image...
2022-01-12 17:46:36 The backup has ended. There are errors. Consult the log file.

2022-01-12 17:46:37 The log files have been successfully sent.

2022-01-12 17:46:41 Backing up some selected tasks.

2022-01-12 17:46:42 A backup has started...
2022-01-12 17:46:42 Calculating the number of files. This could take a while...

2022-01-12 17:46:42 Backing up the task "KVM-W11 Reflector Test"
2022-01-12 17:46:42 Requesting the creation of a Volume Shadow Copy image for the source...
2022-01-12 17:46:43 The Volume Shadow Copy image has been successfully created.
2022-01-12 17:46:43 Starting the copy. The user running the task is: SYSTEM
ERR 2022-01-12 17:46:43 The destination directory "E:\MyDocsBackup\backup1\NtUtil 2022-01-12 17;46;43" couldn't be created: (112) There is not enough space on the disk: [E:\MyDocsBackup\backup1\NtUtil 2022-01-12 17;46;43]
2022-01-12 17:46:43 * Backup part for the task "KVM-W11 Reflector Test" has ended. Number of backed up files: 0. Backup part size: 0 bytes. *
ERR 2022-01-12 17:46:43 The destination directory "E:\MyDocsBackup\backup1\Drivers 2022-01-12 17;46;43" couldn't be created: (112) There is not enough space on the disk: [E:\MyDocsBackup\backup1\Drivers 2022-01-12 17;46;43]
2022-01-12 17:46:43 * Backup part for the task "KVM-W11 Reflector Test" has ended. Number of backed up files: 0. Backup part size: 0 bytes. *
2022-01-12 17:46:43 ** Backup for the task "KVM-W11 Reflector Test" has ended. Number of backed up files: 0. Created folders: 0. Backup size: 0 bytes. **
2022-01-12 17:46:43 *** Number of errors: 2. Time elapsed for the task "KVM-W11 Reflector Test": 0 hours, 0 minutes, 0 seconds. ***

2022-01-12 17:46:43 Deleting the Volume Shadow Copy image...
2022-01-12 17:46:44 The backup has ended. There are errors. Consult the log file.

2022-01-12 17:46:44 The log files have been successfully sent.

2022-01-12 17:46:47 Backing up some selected tasks.

2022-01-12 17:46:48 A backup has started...
2022-01-12 17:46:48 Calculating the number of files. This could take a while...

2022-01-12 17:46:48 Backing up the task "KVM-W11 Reflector Test"
2022-01-12 17:46:48 Requesting the creation of a Volume Shadow Copy image for the source...
2022-01-12 17:46:50 The backup has ended. There are errors. Consult the log file.

2022-01-12 17:46:50 The log files have been successfully sent.

2022-01-12 17:46:54 Backing up some selected tasks.

2022-01-12 17:46:55 A backup has started...
2022-01-12 17:46:55 Calculating the number of files. This could take a while...

2022-01-12 17:46:55 Backing up the task "KVM-W11 Reflector Test"
2022-01-12 17:46:55 Requesting the creation of a Volume Shadow Copy image for the source...
2022-01-12 17:46:57 The backup has ended. There are errors. Consult the log file.

2022-01-12 17:46:57 The log files have been successfully sent.

2022-01-12 17:47:01 Backing up some selected tasks.

2022-01-12 17:47:02 A backup has started...
2022-01-12 17:47:02 Calculating the number of files. This could take a while...

2022-01-12 17:47:02 Backing up the task "KVM-W11 Reflector Test"
2022-01-12 17:47:02 Requesting the creation of a Volume Shadow Copy image for the source...
2022-01-12 17:47:03 The Volume Shadow Copy image has been successfully created.
2022-01-12 17:47:03 Starting the copy. The user running the task is: SYSTEM
ERR 2022-01-12 17:47:03 The destination directory "E:\MyDocsBackup\backup1\NtUtil 2022-01-12 17;47;03" couldn't be created: (112) There is not enough space on the disk: [E:\MyDocsBackup\backup1\NtUtil 2022-01-12 17;47;03]
2022-01-12 17:47:03 * Backup part for the task "KVM-W11 Reflector Test" has ended. Number of backed up files: 0. Backup part size: 0 bytes. *
ERR 2022-01-12 17:47:03 The destination directory "E:\MyDocsBackup\backup1\Drivers 2022-01-12 17;47;03" couldn't be created: (112) There is not enough space on the disk: [E:\MyDocsBackup\backup1\Drivers 2022-01-12 17;47;03]
2022-01-12 17:47:03 * Backup part for the task "KVM-W11 Reflector Test" has ended. Number of backed up files: 0. Backup part size: 0 bytes. *
2022-01-12 17:47:03 ** Backup for the task "KVM-W11 Reflector Test" has ended. Number of backed up files: 0. Created folders: 0. Backup size: 0 bytes. **
2022-01-12 17:47:03 *** Number of errors: 2. Time elapsed for the task "KVM-W11 Reflector Test": 0 hours, 0 minutes, 0 seconds. ***

2022-01-12 17:47:03 Deleting the Volume Shadow Copy image...
2022-01-12 17:47:04 The backup has ended. There are errors. Consult the log file.

2022-01-12 17:47:04 The log files have been successfully sent.

2022-01-12 17:47:07 Backing up some selected tasks.

2022-01-12 17:47:08 A backup has started...
2022-01-12 17:47:08 Calculating the number of files. This could take a while...

2022-01-12 17:47:08 Backing up the task "KVM-W11 Reflector Test"
2022-01-12 17:47:08 Requesting the creation of a Volume Shadow Copy image for the source...
2022-01-12 17:47:10 The log files have been successfully sent.

2022-01-12 17:47:10 The backup has ended. There are errors. Consult the log file.

2022-01-12 17:47:15 Backing up some selected tasks.

2022-01-12 17:47:16 A backup has started...
2022-01-12 17:47:16 Calculating the number of files. This could take a while...

2022-01-12 17:47:16 Backing up the task "KVM-W11 Reflector Test"
2022-01-12 17:47:16 Requesting the creation of a Volume Shadow Copy image for the source...
2022-01-12 17:47:17 The Volume Shadow Copy image has been successfully created.
2022-01-12 17:47:17 Starting the copy. The user running the task is: SYSTEM
ERR 2022-01-12 17:47:17 The destination directory "E:\MyDocsBackup\backup1\NtUtil 2022-01-12 17;47;17" couldn't be created: (112) There is not enough space on the disk: [E:\MyDocsBackup\backup1\NtUtil 2022-01-12 17;47;17]
2022-01-12 17:47:17 * Backup part for the task "KVM-W11 Reflector Test" has ended. Number of backed up files: 0. Backup part size: 0 bytes. *
ERR 2022-01-12 17:47:17 The destination directory "E:\MyDocsBackup\backup1\Drivers 2022-01-12 17;47;17" couldn't be created: (112) There is not enough space on the disk: [E:\MyDocsBackup\backup1\Drivers 2022-01-12 17;47;17]
2022-01-12 17:47:17 * Backup part for the task "KVM-W11 Reflector Test" has ended. Number of backed up files: 0. Backup part size: 0 bytes. *
2022-01-12 17:47:17 ** Backup for the task "KVM-W11 Reflector Test" has ended. Number of backed up files: 0. Created folders: 0. Backup size: 0 bytes. **
2022-01-12 17:47:17 *** Number of errors: 2. Time elapsed for the task "KVM-W11 Reflector Test": 0 hours, 0 minutes, 0 seconds. ***

2022-01-12 17:47:17 Deleting the Volume Shadow Copy image...
2022-01-12 17:47:18 The Volume Shadow Copy image has been successfully deleted.
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Re: Tasks run manually do not always run

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No symptom change in CobianReflector-0.9.80.exe
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Re: Tasks run manually do not always run

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No symptom, change on CobianReflector-0.9.80.exe
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Re: Tasks run manually do not always run

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So the log files are not deleted when the mailing is done?

There are so many problems in this thread that I have honestly lost the focus.
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Re: Tasks run manually do not always run

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Hi Luis,

crSetup-0.9.90-RC1.exe

I am starting to get a little afraid here. This is a release candidate. I can not roll this out to customer until this gets fixed.

I got four successful ones, then it was back to
2022-02-04 18:49:38 A backup has started...
2022-02-04 18:49:38 Calculating the number of files. This could take a while...

2022-02-04 18:49:38 Backing up the task "KVM-W11 Reflector Test"
2022-02-04 18:49:38 Requesting the creation of a Volume Shadow Copy image for the source...
2022-02-04 18:49:39 The Volume Shadow Copy image has been successfully created.
2022-02-04 18:49:39 Starting the copy. The user running the task is: SYSTEM

2022-02-04 18:49:40 The backup has ended. There are errors. Consult the log file.

2022-02-04 18:49:41 The log files have been successfully deleted.

Please let me know if I can send you any data or run any tests for you.

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Re: Tasks run manually do not always run

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Hi Luis,

The goofed task run occurs randomly. Could it be an uninitialized variable?

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Re: Tasks run manually do not always run

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The only think that could help is:

Take a deep breath and concentrate on the issue. Then explain EXACTLY

1) What is expected
2) What you have
3) What you get

As now I really don't know id the issue is that a task is not started, which task, or if the problem is that there are errors that are not being logged or why is there an arrow pointing to Delete log files or.... You get the point.
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Re: Tasks run manually do not always run

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cobian wrote: 05 Feb 2022, 11:38
1) What is expected
2) What you have
3) What you get

As now I really don't know id the issue is that a task is not started, which task, or if the problem is that there are errors that are not being logged or why is there an arrow pointing to Delete log files or.... You get the point.
Hi Luis,

Hopefully I cover everything you need this time. Let me know if I am missing something.

The issue is the the task randomly does not always actually run when requested. I will screen shot a good task result and a bad task result.

Windows 11
CobianReflector-0.9.90-RC1.exe

TaskId=08c0ae1f-3f4f-4336-8e4a-2bd216b17e04
Main list
Reflector.MainList.zip
MainList.lst contains task ID
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Task Properties:
Properties of the task
Properties of the task
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Log Settings:
Log Settings
Log Settings
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How task is run:
How the task is run
How the task is run
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1: the task should run properly and a backup should occur. It does randomly about two out of three tries. The errors (in red) are on purpose to trigger error messages in the eMailed logs. The result of a good task look like
Results of a proper task run manually
Results of a proper task run manually
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The eMail log is an exact match to what shows on the console, without the red colors.

I have exceeded my five attachment limit, so I will continue on another response
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